fundo14
02-19 12:36 PM
Hi All,
I wanted to share my experience at the port of entry using AP.
Just to give a quick background me and my wife have been working on H1 for last 8 years, we both were working on our H1’s at the time of leaving for vacation one month back.
Our 485/EAD/AP was filed on July 2nd, 2007; my wife is a Primary Applicant.
We have our 485 receipts/ approved EAD’s and AP’s with us.
Also, our H1 Petition’s are valid till 2010 but the stamping on passport is expired, we did not get stamping in India as we intended to enter using AP
At the Port of entry this is how it went:
Officer: Very rudely asked for our passports & I-94
We gave him our Passports, I-94 forms and Original AP’s
Officer: What’s the purpose of your visit?
Our Answer: To join back at our respective work.
Officer: Work? Who’s the primary applicant?
My answer: My wife
Officer: Then how the hell you will work here, you cannot work here, only your wife can work as the petition is on her name, you are a derivative.
My answer: But I have work Authorization (showed our EAD cards)
Officer: That’s all bullhshit, does not mean anything…you can not work here.
My answer: I politely told him that sir when we left country a month ago we both were working on H1’s, now we are seeking entry on AP.
Officer: yeh but don’t do fraud, you cannot work here (Very rudely)...who told you that you can work here.
My Answer: Again I explained politely- Sir, we filed for 485 which made us eligible to get EAD’s, showed him the EAD card again (which clearly states “Authorized to work in US till validity of this card” Our EAD’s are valid till end of 2008)
Officer: listen don’t teach me law, I have been working here for “x” number of years, and you think you know laws better than me.
After this I and my wife decided to keep quite as that moron was not ready to listen and understand anything.
Officer (rudely): I will set this straight for you…then we were asked to follow him in a separate room. Many people were waiting there I guess most of them using AP
The Officer went to one other custom officer there and pointed towards us and explained him something which we could not hear.
We waited � an hour till our named was called…I was worried that they will now create lot problems for us but to my surprise we were just handed our Passports along with AP’s / I-94 stamped as “AOS” and told you are all set... Absolutely No questions asked.
I am worried if he has entered some nasty remarks on my case…not sure.
Now this entire incident makes me wonder what that officer was talking about, my guess is one of the following:
1. He assumed throughout that my wife is entering on H1 and I on H4
2. Or he did realize his mistake but was too egoistic to accept it.
3. Or he was right and I was wrong about working on EAD (being derivative)...am I missing something here??
One of my suggestion from all this experience is that anybody entering on AP always state the purpose of visit is to “Resume pending AOS”
In last 8 years I have re-entered US like 6 times but never faced such a rude Immigration officer or have been treated like this.
Guru’s please advice if there is a possibility to reinstate our status as H1, we would rather work on H1 then on EAD’s
Thanks!
I wanted to share my experience at the port of entry using AP.
Just to give a quick background me and my wife have been working on H1 for last 8 years, we both were working on our H1’s at the time of leaving for vacation one month back.
Our 485/EAD/AP was filed on July 2nd, 2007; my wife is a Primary Applicant.
We have our 485 receipts/ approved EAD’s and AP’s with us.
Also, our H1 Petition’s are valid till 2010 but the stamping on passport is expired, we did not get stamping in India as we intended to enter using AP
At the Port of entry this is how it went:
Officer: Very rudely asked for our passports & I-94
We gave him our Passports, I-94 forms and Original AP’s
Officer: What’s the purpose of your visit?
Our Answer: To join back at our respective work.
Officer: Work? Who’s the primary applicant?
My answer: My wife
Officer: Then how the hell you will work here, you cannot work here, only your wife can work as the petition is on her name, you are a derivative.
My answer: But I have work Authorization (showed our EAD cards)
Officer: That’s all bullhshit, does not mean anything…you can not work here.
My answer: I politely told him that sir when we left country a month ago we both were working on H1’s, now we are seeking entry on AP.
Officer: yeh but don’t do fraud, you cannot work here (Very rudely)...who told you that you can work here.
My Answer: Again I explained politely- Sir, we filed for 485 which made us eligible to get EAD’s, showed him the EAD card again (which clearly states “Authorized to work in US till validity of this card” Our EAD’s are valid till end of 2008)
Officer: listen don’t teach me law, I have been working here for “x” number of years, and you think you know laws better than me.
After this I and my wife decided to keep quite as that moron was not ready to listen and understand anything.
Officer (rudely): I will set this straight for you…then we were asked to follow him in a separate room. Many people were waiting there I guess most of them using AP
The Officer went to one other custom officer there and pointed towards us and explained him something which we could not hear.
We waited � an hour till our named was called…I was worried that they will now create lot problems for us but to my surprise we were just handed our Passports along with AP’s / I-94 stamped as “AOS” and told you are all set... Absolutely No questions asked.
I am worried if he has entered some nasty remarks on my case…not sure.
Now this entire incident makes me wonder what that officer was talking about, my guess is one of the following:
1. He assumed throughout that my wife is entering on H1 and I on H4
2. Or he did realize his mistake but was too egoistic to accept it.
3. Or he was right and I was wrong about working on EAD (being derivative)...am I missing something here??
One of my suggestion from all this experience is that anybody entering on AP always state the purpose of visit is to “Resume pending AOS”
In last 8 years I have re-entered US like 6 times but never faced such a rude Immigration officer or have been treated like this.
Guru’s please advice if there is a possibility to reinstate our status as H1, we would rather work on H1 then on EAD’s
Thanks!
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thepaew
09-24 02:45 PM
Hello Seba
If you are from EB3ROW, you may be spared the endless wait that some of us have to endure. You could file for your green card and go to business school in the US after your green card application has been approved.
Another option could be that you can file your labor certification and hold off on filing I-140 until you hear back from B-school about the status of your application. If you are admitted, you can attend. If denied, you can continue the processing of your GC.
I am not an immigration expert - so please seek an attorney's advice.
Wish You the Best
Thanks for the clear answer thepaew. That is what I thought. I currently have the opportunity to start the green card process with my employer under EB3 ROW, but I am also planning to go for an MBA in the US within the next few years. I am just into my 5th year of H1. It seems that I should not start the green card process if I am sure about going for an MBA in the US within the next few years. That would be terrible if you get into a school you like but cannot attend since you cannot switch from H1 to F1.
If you are from EB3ROW, you may be spared the endless wait that some of us have to endure. You could file for your green card and go to business school in the US after your green card application has been approved.
Another option could be that you can file your labor certification and hold off on filing I-140 until you hear back from B-school about the status of your application. If you are admitted, you can attend. If denied, you can continue the processing of your GC.
I am not an immigration expert - so please seek an attorney's advice.
Wish You the Best
Thanks for the clear answer thepaew. That is what I thought. I currently have the opportunity to start the green card process with my employer under EB3 ROW, but I am also planning to go for an MBA in the US within the next few years. I am just into my 5th year of H1. It seems that I should not start the green card process if I am sure about going for an MBA in the US within the next few years. That would be terrible if you get into a school you like but cannot attend since you cannot switch from H1 to F1.
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04-09 08:50 PM
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04-21 07:21 PM
Hello,
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gc_wow
09-16 10:43 PM
This lou dog has done much damage to our community, firing him from CNN or removing his sponsers is not going to do much. He will go to another channel and life goes on. Get this guy on our side and make him tell our story. When the dog barks point it towards enemy.
BeCoolGuy
04-13 08:02 AM
Always speak the truth..!!!
Remember, DOL is not depending only on you to find out the truth. The way it works is, if your employer comes under investigation, they'll first try to establish the facts, from DOL LCAs (all for H1Bs, and report fraud to USCIS if necessary). Most likely your name/details came up from LCAs, which are public information. When they ask you, they are trying to find out, the exact degree of exploitation (if any) and whether you willfully participated in it (fraud or exploitation) or not. DOL after all its investigation, establishes, what they callas 'cause of termination' which will allow you as a H1B employee to move out without any issues of that employer.. In addition to H1b individuals, they may also ask Employer for his tax records, payroll info and bank statements, which will establish the truth.
Two, even if you support your employer (for whatever reasons, including fear or immigration), not everybody will, which in turn will anyways trigger proper investigation and the exposure of truth. So why not to convey the fact which will show up anyways.
Three, At your heart you always know, what the truth is. Go with it. Write minimum on paper, if you are not comfortable writing it all. But definately make it a point to write the truth.
Fourth - If DOL is asking you to verify something, fill in WH4 form and submit to them. This will establish you as one of people who blew the whistle. Law protects (even for immigrants) in this case, and your H1b will be intact. THIS WILL SAVE YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN...
AND OFCOURSE, START SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER JOB.
Goodluck
Remember, DOL is not depending only on you to find out the truth. The way it works is, if your employer comes under investigation, they'll first try to establish the facts, from DOL LCAs (all for H1Bs, and report fraud to USCIS if necessary). Most likely your name/details came up from LCAs, which are public information. When they ask you, they are trying to find out, the exact degree of exploitation (if any) and whether you willfully participated in it (fraud or exploitation) or not. DOL after all its investigation, establishes, what they callas 'cause of termination' which will allow you as a H1B employee to move out without any issues of that employer.. In addition to H1b individuals, they may also ask Employer for his tax records, payroll info and bank statements, which will establish the truth.
Two, even if you support your employer (for whatever reasons, including fear or immigration), not everybody will, which in turn will anyways trigger proper investigation and the exposure of truth. So why not to convey the fact which will show up anyways.
Three, At your heart you always know, what the truth is. Go with it. Write minimum on paper, if you are not comfortable writing it all. But definately make it a point to write the truth.
Fourth - If DOL is asking you to verify something, fill in WH4 form and submit to them. This will establish you as one of people who blew the whistle. Law protects (even for immigrants) in this case, and your H1b will be intact. THIS WILL SAVE YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN...
AND OFCOURSE, START SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER JOB.
Goodluck
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roseball
10-15 04:07 PM
I think the same. As my latest passport shows no visa except the AP entry stamp, they are confused how did I travel to India earlier. My wife explained them that I used AP, but they still believe that a visa page is missing in the supporting docs. So they have retained the passport and asked to submit 'current copy of husband's visa'. Now I am going to write a personal letter explaining the same and attaching the original I-797 which has my I-94.
Did you have your wife take copies of all pages from your passport. If not, I suggest you send them along with the letter. Also attach copy of your AP.
Did you have your wife take copies of all pages from your passport. If not, I suggest you send them along with the letter. Also attach copy of your AP.
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rockstart
01-09 11:53 AM
As far as I know he was allowed to board the flight. No issues there but there can be issues when he re-enters US. Since he was on B1 (10 year Multiple) he can stay max 6 months in US so he has I 94 till Apr 09 but if he say come in Oct 09 to US again the system might not have checked him off so it might display that he is still in US and he overstayed his Visa and so CBP will call him in for secondary inspection. As far as I know it can be resolved by showing flight ticket stub and arrival stamp in destination country etc. Its more if hassle than anything.
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gcadream
03-04 08:24 AM
Thanks a lot Rakson for updating the forum with valuable question and answers with the lawyer. Really appreciate it !!
It cleared lot of my doubts as well but regarding point 'C'
[C. Can new company (B) transfer Priority date even if existing company(A) revokes their I-140?]
I have heard lawyers saying in this forum itself that it can be a problem if the previous employer revokes the approved I-140, irrespective whether it was fraud or not. I don't have the links saved for that discussion, otherwise I would have pasted it.
But are you very sure about point 'C' that what ever ur lawyer said is correct and final ?
It cleared lot of my doubts as well but regarding point 'C'
[C. Can new company (B) transfer Priority date even if existing company(A) revokes their I-140?]
I have heard lawyers saying in this forum itself that it can be a problem if the previous employer revokes the approved I-140, irrespective whether it was fraud or not. I don't have the links saved for that discussion, otherwise I would have pasted it.
But are you very sure about point 'C' that what ever ur lawyer said is correct and final ?
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Alabaman
08-24 09:00 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1540
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2006?
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GotGC??
02-20 04:48 PM
This is useful, but I doubt its accuracy because some of the cases I know - including mine - are missing !!
Here is the link to database:
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
Here is the link to database:
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx
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admin
06-01 03:27 PM
We have discussed this issue earlier on this forum.
IV really wishes that this is possible but the truth is that when CIR has already been passed in the Senate, there is no way that Frist (or any other senator for that matter) will allow for the introduction of another immigration bill now.
So if we need to proceed with a legal immigrant's only bill, we will atleast have to wait till CIR dies. So don't get your hopes high now.
IV really wishes that this is possible but the truth is that when CIR has already been passed in the Senate, there is no way that Frist (or any other senator for that matter) will allow for the introduction of another immigration bill now.
So if we need to proceed with a legal immigrant's only bill, we will atleast have to wait till CIR dies. So don't get your hopes high now.
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BMS1
08-21 07:07 PM
You are saying ur PD was Sec 2005? Mine is Dec 2005. Should I also expect it sometime soon :)?
If it is Dec 2005 you must be from non-retro and going by the many approvals for non-retro, you should certainly expect it soon (especially if other checks are complete)
If it is Dec 2005 you must be from non-retro and going by the many approvals for non-retro, you should certainly expect it soon (especially if other checks are complete)
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07-22 08:41 PM
Can a senior member kindly address these questions posted for the last couple days. A quick response will be highly appreciated.
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americandesi
09-10 12:05 AM
Hi - How to complain to USCIS about a fradulant company, What would be the affect of the complain on the employee ? Please advise and provide with any information. I know abot a cheater who exploites innocent students, are there any threads or blogs where there is informtion about fradulant companies, I guess there should be thread about such kind of companes and people running them, so that people do not get into their trap..
Thanks.
Here's the form to complain H1 violations to DOL.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/forms/whd/WH-4.pdf
If you are on H1, better to get it transferred to another employer before complaining, so that your old employer doesn't retaliate by withdrawing your H1.
Thanks.
Here's the form to complain H1 violations to DOL.
http://www.dol.gov/esa/forms/whd/WH-4.pdf
If you are on H1, better to get it transferred to another employer before complaining, so that your old employer doesn't retaliate by withdrawing your H1.
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anil
06-15 10:28 AM
Gurus,
One more confusion, guess I'm confused a lot now:confused:
Can I apply I-485 for my wife whose change of status application from H1 to H4 is pending with CIS?
Thanks a lot!
One more confusion, guess I'm confused a lot now:confused:
Can I apply I-485 for my wife whose change of status application from H1 to H4 is pending with CIS?
Thanks a lot!
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Mumbai_girl
12-02 12:06 PM
Dear Friend:
I will also be going to the Kolkata Consulate to get my H1B stamped in May 2008 (HIB expires Aug 2008). Since getting an appointment at the US Consulate requires a prior payment of visa fees at a Consulate designated bank, I would apprecitae if you would let me know how this process works: I.e: (1) How to pay the visa application fee and the visa issuance fee at that bank; and (2) how to book an appointment at the Consulate at Kolkata. Thanks again.
This link should explain all your queries
http://www.vfs-usa.co.in
I will also be going to the Kolkata Consulate to get my H1B stamped in May 2008 (HIB expires Aug 2008). Since getting an appointment at the US Consulate requires a prior payment of visa fees at a Consulate designated bank, I would apprecitae if you would let me know how this process works: I.e: (1) How to pay the visa application fee and the visa issuance fee at that bank; and (2) how to book an appointment at the Consulate at Kolkata. Thanks again.
This link should explain all your queries
http://www.vfs-usa.co.in
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nb_des
04-15 02:59 PM
Yes, if my LC will get approved in the iterim, I might be safe, but with no time left on the H1-B, and with the reduction of salary that will be applied very soon, I don''t think this is going to happen. Unless, as you said, I won't be lucky enough to get approved really soon.
Again your LC approval has no direct connection with what you are being paid currently. LC is for future job so I find it unlikely that DOL will factor your current salary in any way. They may consider your employer's ability to pay the stated salary on LC based on their finacial situation but your current pay stub should not matter.
Does that answer your question?
Again your LC approval has no direct connection with what you are being paid currently. LC is for future job so I find it unlikely that DOL will factor your current salary in any way. They may consider your employer's ability to pay the stated salary on LC based on their finacial situation but your current pay stub should not matter.
Does that answer your question?
tomatocup
07-12 04:55 PM
It is partly true. You get stuck in name check , somebody get stuck at I-140, All in all this whole system is purposefully created to keep doors locked "legallly". The first and foremost question should be how the hell government has decided 140000 visas not 40000 and not 240000 but only 140000 and why the hell discrimination against people from only 4 countries?
Infact employment based immigration is for sufficing the need of the market then let market decides what immigration numbers should be set as ceiling... If US economy need 7 milion in year 2007, ceiling should be 7 million and next year US market may need only 7000 then for that year ceiling should be 7000. I believe if they may freshen up the whole EB GC mess with starting restructuring based on this concept then only in future we can expect flawless legal immigration...
Who and what will be used to decide the market need? If this is like what you said, what will happen to those 7 million in the next year where market need is only 7000? Does this mean many of them will be laid off or sent back? Does USCIS hire more people during the 7 million year and lay them off in the next year? How can a system be flawless with all these uncontroble things? People have to wait in many ways to get things done in most of the country with large population. Logiclife is right that life is not fare if you want to compare.
Infact employment based immigration is for sufficing the need of the market then let market decides what immigration numbers should be set as ceiling... If US economy need 7 milion in year 2007, ceiling should be 7 million and next year US market may need only 7000 then for that year ceiling should be 7000. I believe if they may freshen up the whole EB GC mess with starting restructuring based on this concept then only in future we can expect flawless legal immigration...
Who and what will be used to decide the market need? If this is like what you said, what will happen to those 7 million in the next year where market need is only 7000? Does this mean many of them will be laid off or sent back? Does USCIS hire more people during the 7 million year and lay them off in the next year? How can a system be flawless with all these uncontroble things? People have to wait in many ways to get things done in most of the country with large population. Logiclife is right that life is not fare if you want to compare.
smartboy75
09-22 11:11 PM
09/22/2008: USCIS Ombudsman Assistance Available for EAD Delay Cases
If your EAD applications are pending more than 90 days and you need ombudsman's assistance, the following steps should be take:
Step 1: Call USCIS National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-(800) 375-5283 and record the time/date of the call and the name/number of the customer service representative: Explain to the customer service representative that your EAD has been pending more than 90 days and ask for a �service request.� You should receive a response to your service request within a week.
OR Ask the customer service representative to request an interim card for you. You should receive an EAD or response within a week.
Step 2: If you choose to visit a local USCIS office, schedule an INFOPASS appointment to visit that office on www.infopass.uscis.gov. At the appointment, ask to apply for an interim EAD. Note that USCIS local offices no longer issue interim EADs. The local office can review your case and determine eligibility. The local office will forward your request to the USCIS service centers. You should receive an EAD or response within a week.
Step 3: If you have tried both Step 1 and Step 2 and have still not received your EAD or an interim card, please email the ombudsman's office at cisombudsman.publicaffairs@dhs.gov with the details of your efforts. Please include the date and time of your call to the NCSC and the name of the customer service representative. If you visited a USCIS office, please provide that information. The office will look into your case and review how we may be of assistance.
Source: www.immigration-law.com
If your EAD applications are pending more than 90 days and you need ombudsman's assistance, the following steps should be take:
Step 1: Call USCIS National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-(800) 375-5283 and record the time/date of the call and the name/number of the customer service representative: Explain to the customer service representative that your EAD has been pending more than 90 days and ask for a �service request.� You should receive a response to your service request within a week.
OR Ask the customer service representative to request an interim card for you. You should receive an EAD or response within a week.
Step 2: If you choose to visit a local USCIS office, schedule an INFOPASS appointment to visit that office on www.infopass.uscis.gov. At the appointment, ask to apply for an interim EAD. Note that USCIS local offices no longer issue interim EADs. The local office can review your case and determine eligibility. The local office will forward your request to the USCIS service centers. You should receive an EAD or response within a week.
Step 3: If you have tried both Step 1 and Step 2 and have still not received your EAD or an interim card, please email the ombudsman's office at cisombudsman.publicaffairs@dhs.gov with the details of your efforts. Please include the date and time of your call to the NCSC and the name of the customer service representative. If you visited a USCIS office, please provide that information. The office will look into your case and review how we may be of assistance.
Source: www.immigration-law.com
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